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Jesse van der Grient - Science without Sides

Finally, a Marine Biologist!

Dr. Jesse van der Grient is a quantitative ecologist whose work focuses on how ecosystems connect — across habitats, species, and stressors. She brings a neutral, science-based perspective through her work with the Deep Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI), a network of experts that does not advocate for or against deep-sea mining, but provides the science needed for informed decision-making.

Jesse puts detials to the biology of the deep ocean and unpacks the interactions of deep-sea ecosystems and what they mean for the future of seabed mining.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Deep Sea Mining and Ecosystems
01:47 Understanding Marine Biodiversity and Management
04:15 Research Journey: From Marine Biology to Deep Sea Mining
06:57 Complex Interactions: Stressors in Marine Environments
09:28 Ecosystem Modeling and Its Challenges
12:42 Ecosystem Services and Fisheries Overlap
15:26 Impacts of Sediment Plumes on Marine Life
18:20 The Role of Indicator Species in Ecosystem Health
21:29 Data Gaps in Deep Sea Research
24:01 Cumulative Impacts and Future Directions
29:01 Ecosystem Insights: Bridging Shallow and Deep Sea Research
33:03 Understanding Deep Sea Ecosystems and Mining Vulnerabilities
37:19 Connectivity in Deep Sea Populations: Implications for Conservation
43:31 Comparing Deep Sea and Terrestrial Ecosystems: A Complex Debate
47:37 Uncertainty in Deep Sea Research: The Need for Comprehensive Sampling
53:30 Risks of Deep Sea Mining: Sedimentation and Species Vulnerability
Theme Music Tamarack by Jesse Matas

Key takeaways

  • “We need to understand what is being managed… the connections in the deep ocean people don’t always know about or understand very well.”

  • “Two stressors can cancel each other out, or they can amplify each other. More often than not, we see synergistic impacts.”

  • “Counting parts doesn’t tell you if the car works. In ecosystems, knowing species numbers isn’t enough — we need to know how it functions.”

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